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did that 6% look at robbie last night and they missed -- at romney last night and say this is somebody who looked better some were paying attention. for those, the answer has to be yes. you are going to see a bump in the polls for romney. he cannot tell from a polling last night. i believe 67% said -- believe romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our diet one, their side thinks their dive one, and it comes about even in the wash. it was decisive. >> quickly, explain to a group of people, where i doubt there is an undecided voters in this room, what do they look like? who are they? >> they look like the kind of people who ask the waiter to come back because they have not decided on what they have for dinner. when you look at undecided voters, generally taken to be younger women than anything else. in this case, what i am seeing, it is an even division between men and women, there can be more independent, but somewhat conservative to moderate, but what is interesting is only 18% undecided voters and swing states say the country is going in the right d
did that 6% look at robbie last night and they missed -- at romney last night and say this is somebody who looked better some were paying attention. for those, the answer has to be yes. you are going to see a bump in the polls for romney. he cannot tell from a polling last night. i believe 67% said -- believe romney won the debate. that is a stunning number. usually, our side thinks our diet one, their side thinks their dive one, and it comes about even in the wash. it was decisive. >>...
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last night my reaction to the debate was where is the substance mr. romney? is that a good debate just throwing around a lot of comments. and i didn't think the spt taking credit for some of the things he's doing. and the second comment i is minority voters are scared of the i.d. i would like to see if you would comment on how you're polling and if you're involved with any of the hispanic leadership about making sure the vote gets out? >> i disagree with the first part. i thought it was a more subs stan tive debate i've seen in a while. and i was watching some of the meters and when romney was going through his five point plan, his numbers went straight up. i thought -- i don't think it was vague, i thought it was a lot of substance. >> it was the most substive debate i can remember in terms of plans in a long time. maybe the bar is set so low it's not hard to get over but i was kind of surprised. >> i guess what is substance these days, especially in the modern debate or communications? i guess my summation would be you had a very good sense of these two yes
last night my reaction to the debate was where is the substance mr. romney? is that a good debate just throwing around a lot of comments. and i didn't think the spt taking credit for some of the things he's doing. and the second comment i is minority voters are scared of the i.d. i would like to see if you would comment on how you're polling and if you're involved with any of the hispanic leadership about making sure the vote gets out? >> i disagree with the first part. i thought it was a...
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this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that momentum in the final days? >> well, first of all, i'm not the least bit surprised mitt romney did as well as he did. he did well in the 20 debates rick santorum went up against him. i would also argue one of the big advantages romney had going into the debate was he did have to debate rick santorum, he did have to debate newt gingrich. it is like having a preseason. and the president didn't have that. i think the other key thing that came out of this is the presidential race for all practical purposes actually started last night. a lot of people just didn't know mitt romney
this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that...
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it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this morning and this afternoon, there are packing it with people who are trying to explain that this was just a one bad night and the president is still cecilia's he was before. neil: the thin air in denver, a mile high. >> blaming it on altitude. the president revealed last night why the country has over 8 percent unemployment. 23 million people unemployed and underemployed. it is because he is incompetent and incoherent and has not functioned in the white house. it was, i think, pretty clear that he has been propped up for four years by a mainstream media that has tried to make hi
it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this...
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the tw factors from last night, how much did mitt romney raise his image? we have seen a number of polls showing 2 to 3 points. mitt romney came across as somebody who was more genuine that they it -- than they had realized. this guy could step into the oval office and have no problems doing it. i am not sure that any other republican running in the primaries would have been able to pull that off last night. and i am being generous. [laughter] what i wonder is, we do our dialing between 5:00 and 9:00 p.m. on the west coast, how do you do a national poll tax everybody is going to bed -- on the east coast, how do you do a national poll? everybody is going to bed. among undecideds -- look, the first decision they make is, do i want to vote for barack obama? he is the incumbent, the guy in charge for the last four years. if they are undecided, the answer has been no. there is something they are concerned about with mitt romney, which is why they are undecided. in 10 states, two weeks ago, there were 6% of the voters undecided. that is a pretty significant amoun
the tw factors from last night, how much did mitt romney raise his image? we have seen a number of polls showing 2 to 3 points. mitt romney came across as somebody who was more genuine that they it -- than they had realized. this guy could step into the oval office and have no problems doing it. i am not sure that any other republican running in the primaries would have been able to pull that off last night. and i am being generous. [laughter] what i wonder is, we do our dialing between 5:00...
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the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot youill and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win and what you say almost matters as much as how you say it, and the scary thing about politics is, substance aside, you know, a lot of the journalist whose know the substance on these issues are debating with themselves who was more accurate and who was not. when you listen to the person in the street, the voter, the juror who i speak to, they say i understood romney, i didn't understandbama i liked romney's style, i didn't like the president laying down. >> rose: we conclude this evening with barbara, a computer scientist and author, her book on voting heens is called broken ballots, will your vote count.
the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot youill and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win...
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romney has a good night, but no evidence of changing the game. i agree with them completely on the first that romney had a good night. i think we will have to see a minute whether it changed the game. walmart sponsored their walmart focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, one of glen's partners together. they suggested a monster lot of walmart moms, it was a win for romney. the people in the groups were divided between a win for romney or a tie. on the other hand, it said they were disappointed with the president's performance. they do not think he made the case for how another four years would be better. they made the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level, but i think romney did a superior job of debating it. we will be seeing a lot of reviews over the next few days. i think the key thing for us to watch, no question mitt romney won the debate. how much does this change things? in national polls he will get a few points out of this. the more relevant. is that, number one, do
romney has a good night, but no evidence of changing the game. i agree with them completely on the first that romney had a good night. i think we will have to see a minute whether it changed the game. walmart sponsored their walmart focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, one of glen's partners together. they suggested a monster lot of walmart moms, it was a win for romney. the people in the groups were divided between a win for romney or a tie. on the other hand, it...
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romney won the debate last night. i thought the president was listening to a lot of repugnance and also to his adviser -- a lot of the pundits and also to his advisers to not be as a professor tutorial in his responses. mitt romney clearly had the night last night as far as the debate itself. i think they need to go back to the drawing board and allow barack obama to be barack obama. not so much again as have the appearance of the president, which he is. i have heard most of the pundits were saying that the president should not go on the attack and he should look more presidential and not necessarily play the blame game as to what brought us here. congratulations to mr. romney on his performance. host: does that crystallize who you will vote for? caller: i thought mr. romney was very disingenuous. i watched the debates from top to bottom. jim lehrer asked mr. romney whether he supported the the vouchers that mr. ryan would be introducing to senior citizens. he dodged that question like a football player going through
romney won the debate last night. i thought the president was listening to a lot of repugnance and also to his adviser -- a lot of the pundits and also to his advisers to not be as a professor tutorial in his responses. mitt romney clearly had the night last night as far as the debate itself. i think they need to go back to the drawing board and allow barack obama to be barack obama. not so much again as have the appearance of the president, which he is. i have heard most of the pundits were...
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mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates would have to go up on the wealthy, too, to make this close to working. >> that wasn't my analysis. the point raised by you and others is that there are now plans that conservatives have put together which meet the specifications of mr. romney and don't raise taxes on the middle class. there are plans that the democrats have put together that do raise tax on the middle class. that says this can be done and the issue is what will be done. on that i would say i don't think the president is in a strong position of pointing fingers. he has been saying he wants t
mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates...
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for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his eighth trip to nevada this year before 00 kwering down for two full days for debate prep at a lakeside resort in suburban las vegas. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you are. >> i don't know about that. >> both campaigns from the candidates on down have been frantically spinning to lower expectations for wednesday night. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very experienced speaker,
for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his...
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romney has no evidence of changing the game. i agree on the first that romney had a good night. i did not know if it changed the game. wal-mart sponsors their focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, and one of his partners at democratic strategies. together they suggest that it was a win for romney. they were debated between a win for romney and a tie. on the other hand, they said they were disappointed with the president's performance and it cannot believe he made the case for how another four years would be different or better. making the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level but clearly romney did a superior job of debating it. there's no question romney won the debate. the question is how much does that change things? in terms of national polls, there's no question he will get a few points out of this. the harder and more relative points is, number one, does the move ohio? does he moved the swing voters in these swing states? that's what's really relevant here. i have no idea. in my view, you show me an
romney has no evidence of changing the game. i agree on the first that romney had a good night. i did not know if it changed the game. wal-mart sponsors their focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, and one of his partners at democratic strategies. together they suggest that it was a win for romney. they were debated between a win for romney and a tie. on the other hand, they said they were disappointed with the president's performance and it cannot believe he made the...
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>> yes, i mean i agree that this was mitt romney's night. he was punchier, crisper, president obama seemed tired. he was convoluted. the feedback i was getting from people viewing from their homes, frankly they were lost during the course of this debate. it strikes me as a really fine line between having a very serious economic policy debate which this certainly was, in which american voters say they wanted and the country certainly needs and making sure that you keep the voters engaged and that you make it comprehensible to voters. and i think again on that front, mitt romney did a better job than barack obama did and he has to go into that second debate stronger. because the consensus is here that he had a weak night. >> rose: al hunt, was this a good debate as debates go? >> i'm not sure how you judge that, charlie. i think it's up to the candidates to make it a good or bad debate and i think romney did a pretty good job and obama did a very poor job. show i guess that makes it a wash. i'm not sure about mike murphy's point about it being
>> yes, i mean i agree that this was mitt romney's night. he was punchier, crisper, president obama seemed tired. he was convoluted. the feedback i was getting from people viewing from their homes, frankly they were lost during the course of this debate. it strikes me as a really fine line between having a very serious economic policy debate which this certainly was, in which american voters say they wanted and the country certainly needs and making sure that you keep the voters engaged...
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and believing again perhaps that mitt romney has the chance to do it, i would agree that that will help his fund raising and sorry to say, ben, the money does matter. it matters in our-- >> well, i will tell you, adam, some of romney's big fundraisers particularly in new york, complained that he was fun raising it too much and not take it go to the president. scary thing about the debate and great and wonderful thing for america, what's scary about it, it exposed the man likely to be reelected to be someone so out to lunch when it comes to the economy, i'm scared about the next four years, when you don't have basic command of facts and you're the president of the united states, whoa, that's a big problem. >> does that fear that a lot of people may share what charlie translate to people, saying, you know what i'm going to pour the money into mitt romney. >> i'm not convinced just not convinced. i think he was really appealing, if you were on the sidelines and in the middle you may be persuaded and i think that he pushed back, you know, the people most critical of romney was g.o.p. talkin
and believing again perhaps that mitt romney has the chance to do it, i would agree that that will help his fund raising and sorry to say, ben, the money does matter. it matters in our-- >> well, i will tell you, adam, some of romney's big fundraisers particularly in new york, complained that he was fun raising it too much and not take it go to the president. scary thing about the debate and great and wonderful thing for america, what's scary about it, it exposed the man likely to be...
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there was last night's debate and most people calling mitt romney the winner. trickle-down government. i wonder what lou will say about that. lori: he has been wanting him to step out and drop the gloves. a lot of people saying he did that last night. we will also talk about retail sales. find out about these winners and losers. what stores are stocking up to grab your dollar as well. hope you like corduroys. melissa: not so much. elizabeth macdonald is at the rock 'n roll hall of fame in cleveland. she will be talking with mayor frank jackson. she will also be talking to joe roman. cleveland is open for business and we are there. lori: baseball fans, probably not a shock here, the boston red sox have fired their manager, bobby valentine. they had 93 losses last season. they finished dead last. melissa: it was a tough little series here in new york. lori: no surprise, but, boy, you just get one. to prove yourself. melissa: let's head to the floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole: we are looking at a market that has had up arrows. the dow jones industrials
there was last night's debate and most people calling mitt romney the winner. trickle-down government. i wonder what lou will say about that. lori: he has been wanting him to step out and drop the gloves. a lot of people saying he did that last night. we will also talk about retail sales. find out about these winners and losers. what stores are stocking up to grab your dollar as well. hope you like corduroys. melissa: not so much. elizabeth macdonald is at the rock 'n roll hall of fame in...
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well, you know, i agree with him completely on the first, that romney had a good night, and, you know, i think we'll have to see a minute about before -- see a couple of days whether it changes the game. you know, walmart sponsored their walmart moms focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm and alex brady, one of glen's partners at public opinion strategies together. you know, suggested that amongst a lot of these walmart moms it was a win for romney -- you know, the people in the groups were divided between a win for romney or a tie and that, on the other hand, or it said they were disappointed with the president's performance, they do not believe he made the case for how another four years would be different or better and that -- but made the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level. but clearly romney did, i think romney did a superior job of debating it. and so there are a lot of -- you know, we'll be seeing a lot of reviews over the next few days, but i think the key thing for us to watch is no question romney won
well, you know, i agree with him completely on the first, that romney had a good night, and, you know, i think we'll have to see a minute about before -- see a couple of days whether it changes the game. you know, walmart sponsored their walmart moms focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm and alex brady, one of glen's partners at public opinion strategies together. you know, suggested that amongst a lot of these walmart moms it was a win for romney -- you know, the...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky. it was pretty substantive. >> the b.s. wonk. >> what's that? >> b.s. wonk. >> mitt romney was floating policies out there -- >> united states has the best health outcomes in the world? >> it was not -- that's it, it was not a lot of one-liners and zingers. >> a couple of good one-liners. people forgot. i've been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about, that's pretty good. >> i need to consult with my accountant is
i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come...
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they have specifics they hope to hear wednesday night. danielle nottingham has the latest from denver. >> reporter: mitt romney will hold his last public event before wednesday's debate here at this hangar in denver and his supporters here say there is little room this week for mistakes. inside this denver airplane hangar gop volunteers work the phones as crews set the stage for mitt romney's last rally before his first presidential debate. >> i think a lot of people are waiting until the debate wednesday. i think that's going to be a big sway for some people just to finally see them kind of go head to head. >> reporter: wednesday's debate at university of denver will focus on domestic policy. romney supporters want the gop nominee to show undecided voters how he'll jump start the slow recovery. >> i think he has solutions to our economic problems and that's really what's going to help everyone in this country. >> reporter: colorado is a battleground state that went for president obama in 2008. republicans here say they've already made fo
they have specifics they hope to hear wednesday night. danielle nottingham has the latest from denver. >> reporter: mitt romney will hold his last public event before wednesday's debate here at this hangar in denver and his supporters here say there is little room this week for mistakes. inside this denver airplane hangar gop volunteers work the phones as crews set the stage for mitt romney's last rally before his first presidential debate. >> i think a lot of people are waiting...
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governor romney doubled down on the proposal last night, and he is wrong. no american should have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies. they should retire with the dignity they have earned. we will perform and strengthen medicare for a long haul, but reducing the cost of health care, not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more, and we will keep promise of social security by taking the responsible steps to strengthen it. we will have a chance to talk about what is going on overseas, because our prosperity at home is linked to what happens abroad. four years ago, i promised to end the war in iraq, and i did. i said we would wind down the war in afghanistan in a responsible way, and we are. while a new tower is rising above the new york skyline, al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. we still face serious threats throughout the world. we saw that a few weeks ago, and that is a why we will sustain the strongest military the world has ever known, and when troops take off the uniforms, we will serve them as well
governor romney doubled down on the proposal last night, and he is wrong. no american should have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies. they should retire with the dignity they have earned. we will perform and strengthen medicare for a long haul, but reducing the cost of health care, not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more, and we will keep promise of social security by taking the responsible steps to strengthen it. we will have a chance to talk about...